September 19 1999 EhBC Online Discussion

Session Start: Sun Sep 19 21:02:00 1999
* BernieRoehl sets an auto-msg for people joining the channel
<trufriend> thanks Bernie
* BernieRoehl chuckles
<trufriend> are You logging the discussion parchance?
<sweetlaura> hello A/all  hi> abi sorry did not know how to keep two chats open
* Kilted_One is loggin
<BernieRoehl> I'm logging as well, so we should have it covered.
* vixen{KO} remembers her snoring Master was "logging" last week's discussion too....LOL
<trufriend> thanks KO
<shimmer``> hi A/all :)
<trufriend> butiful...since i'm not home this eve
* Kilted_One smirks at vixen and yanks on her smart ass chain
<vixen{KO}> ;)
<trufriend> so, shall we get 'er started then?
* BernieRoehl hands the microphone to trufriend, our moderator for tonight's discussion
<`abi> laura :)
* cyberbrat_ LOL at KO and vixenator
<BernieRoehl> Here's the auto-msg I've set up, repeated here for those already in the channel...
<BernieRoehl> Welcome to our regular Sunday night discussion. Please refrain from sending "hi" and "bye" messages until after 10 pm. Also note that the discussion is being logged. If you wish to say something but remain anoymous, you should change your nick. Tonight's topic is "Playparties... what do I expect?". Your moderator is trufriend. Enjoy the discussion!
<BernieRoehl> -
<vixen{KO}> looks good...
* trufriend smiles
<trufriend> how many here this evening have ever been to at least one play party?
* vixen{KO} waves
* cyberbrat_ flings a hand up
* BernieRoehl puts up His hand
<Kilted_One> in the last weeek??
<TheWolfe> yup
* shimmer`` raises her hand
* babysis puts her hand up
* jalyn raises her hand
* Kilted_One puts up his hands
<Kirspin> Yes,three or so
<sweetlaura> never :(
<trufriend> what did you expect to find happening there and when you got there was it what you were expecting or hoping for?
* ddesire puts her hands up..
<victoria_angel> never here too
<trufriend> and for those who have not attended a play party of any kind, what do you think happens at one?
<Kilted_One> the first for me was out west and I was facinated by the set play that they did to start the night off
<victoria_angel> i can well imagine....
<jalyn> what I expected was pretty much what I saw, and it was everything I was hoping for and more...just wished I had the nerve to join in all the fun :)
<trufriend> i've attended 2 now within the last year
<trufriend> me too jalyn
<shimmer``> i wasn't really sure *what* to expect ... it was fun to watch, but everyone seemed so solemn- i was sort of asking myself whether anyone was actually having FUN
<trufriend> i've only 'viewed' the two i attended
<trufriend> i found that some attedees become very serious at a play party...not allowing rom for onlookers or novices
<jalyn> I wish that there was many more of them!
* vixen{KO} wonders if some people expect nearly nekkid barbie-doll looking subbies with swashbuckling handsome rogues as Master wheeling their whips around with the finesse of seasoned lion tamerz.....LOL
<BernieRoehl> I find that different parties have very different atmospheres.  I've been to parties that are dead serious, and some that are just wild and fun.  Depends on the people attending, really.
<ddesire> I have gone to three..played at two..quite the experience and easy to get your adrenaline a rushing..even if its just a demo
* Kilted_One says he wants a ticket for that pp vixen ;)
* BernieRoehl likes vixen's description :-)
<babysis> well that's what i thought i was going to walk into at my first play party
<trufriend> oh i don't know vixen, Sir_Rob in His wonderful 'tuxedo' with His cheeks hangin' out was rather swashbucklin' for me!
<vixen{KO}> well, that's what many people think PP's are....when in fact they are filled with real people like we "really" are...
* ddesire giggles
<shimmer``> i've only ever played in public at a small party ... the big one i only watched.
* babysis recalls her first play party very vividly
<babysis> it was scarey for me to be honest
<babysis> i went by myself
<babysis> and didn't really know anyone there
* cyberbrat_ winks at Bernie...i wasn't scared the first time ;)
<trufriend> is there a 'real' purpose to a play party?  other than the socialization...
<cyberbrat_> right Bernie?
<babysis> it was the first time i had seen any of the images in my head displayed for real
<BernieRoehl> I find a lot aso depends on where the party is held -- private party in a rented hall, or a smaller more intimate gathering in a private home.
<vixen{KO}> whether y'all got into it and played or just watched and learned....was it really as scary as y'all thought it would be?
<cyberbrat_> vixen: it is for me, every time. 
* BernieRoehl remembers working with Tom to get brat to actually walk into the room :-)
<trufriend> it was for me vixen and still is...i get major butterflies thinkin' about ging to one
<shimmer``> it gave me an idea of what was "normal" ... made me realize i wasn't as big a freak as i thought i was *laughing*
<babysis> so do i
<cyberbrat_> i have a deadly hard time facing that kind of intimacy in public, even though i want to.
* shimmer`` nods at cyberbrat
* trufriend remembers a certain brat that had difficulty getting chnged into a beautiful black outfit
* BernieRoehl remembers that too
* Kilted_One remembers that night too tru
* cyberbrat_ *blushes*
* trufriend hugs bratasaurus....
<vixen{KO}> and does facing all these demons and the public play help?  is it healthy to have those anticipating feelings and the rush of having the fun?
<trufriend> you were gorgeous!!
* BernieRoehl kisses brattikins on the forehead
* Kilted_One also remembers a certain wet look catsuit that same eve
* cyberbrat_ blushes harder and hides her head under tru's arm
<babysis> yes i think it is healthy vixen{KO} and it does help
<trufriend> who wore that KO?!
<jalyn> I remember thinking there was no way I was baring my butt in a crowded room for nobody, yet wanted to run onto the floor and jump on one of those spanking tables and get to it!
<vixen{KO}> should
<babysis> i'm slowly getting over my shyness and awkwardness about being who and what i am
<BernieRoehl> That dynamic balance between wanting to and not wanting to is really interesting.
* Kilted_One winks at tru.....will never tell it was you lass
* vixen{KO} meant the should to the helping part....
* vixen{KO} blushes
<cyberbrat_> BernieRoehl, it's FASCINATING
<cyberbrat_> i still haven't even come close to figgering it ou
* BernieRoehl chuckles
<trufriend> it's a boost to the self confidence to be sure....when you can honestly see other people and how they look and how they act and respond
* vixen{KO} is a seasoned bare butter....and it does get easier after a's more about learning and socializing and enjoying the thrill of the lifestyle after the initial fears...
* jalyn thinks..yeah...ow! that would hurt
* jalyn grins
<BernieRoehl> It's also a chance to watch others play, which I think is important.  Everyone, newbies and not-so-newbies alike, can learn a lot by watching others.
<Kilted_One> to keep the ppl that have not been to a party and to get their ideas heard I would like to hear from them what they "expect" to see at their "first"
<cyberbrat_> (Play parties are also *great* places for getting lotsa hugs!!! ;)
<trufriend> exactly KO....
* BernieRoehl hugs brat :-)
* ddesire smiles and agrees with brat
<Kilted_One> va how about you??
<trufriend> what do you expect or hope to happen at a play party....even more, what do you hope to get out of a play party when you finally have the opportunity to attend one?
<Kilted_One> sweetlaura??
<victoria_angel> KO, you had to single me out.....
<victoria_angel> and laura
<sweetlaura> sorry on phone :(
<Kilted_One> you both said you hadnt been to one
<fun4di> I have never been to a party and frankly have no idea about what to expect but hearing the different stories is very interesting
* vixen{KO} winks at her sis's..;
<victoria_angel> i'd expect to see costumes, intimacy, bd interactions....
<trufriend> how intense do you think?
<cyberbrat_> i still want something out of one, sorta, but not really, but maybe, and i've been to ...four.
<trufriend> how involved?
* vixen{KO} knows that techniques and protocols play a big part of it when you're new too...
<sweetlaura> I expect to have a wonderful experience at a play party :)
<victoria_angel> i'd expect that there would be rooms to 'show' technique, demos
<trufriend> you got a little something brat, didn't you?  when i finally got you to chnge into another outfit?  how did you feel?
<victoria_angel> then private rooms for - more intense sessions
<trufriend> what kind of demos would you hope to be available?
<cyberbrat_> after a lonnnnnng time, i felt good, tru
<victoria_angel> of course, i hope that there'd be rooms for socialization w/o bdsm....
* trufriend smiles
* Kilted_One thinks it is very important to hear and listen to ppl that have never been to a pp as they often have visions that can be used to improve what is put on there
<BernieRoehl> That's a pretty good description, victoria_angel.  We typically have play areas and social areas, and at one recent party we had a "private" play area that was also used for demos.
<trufriend> then i didn't do too bad job complete
<vixen{KO}> and there is just that, victoria_angel.....and more....beyond the visual's the kindredship of like-minded souls enjoying what it is they like to do.
<victoria_angel> demos tru, hopefully for tools and techniques, insight to better understanding of both the role of a Master and submissive
* BernieRoehl makes no secret of the fact that He's taking notes on what people are looking for in a play party
<trufriend> that's a great idea victoria_angel
* BernieRoehl agrees with vixen
* cyberbrat_ sqqqqqqqqqquuuuueeeezes tru
<trufriend> something kind of what i was hoping for.....kind of like a business conference with a more intimate appeal
<victoria_angel> i feel that the lifestyle has many area which need to be understood better, and w/o resources or contact with others, some go a blind path
<Kilted_One> does anyone feel that if they attend a pp that they have to play??
<cyberbrat_> never never never KO
<vixen{KO}> what do some of the newpeople expect as far as safety and/or mentorism from those of us that've been around the proverbial "block" before...?
* Kilted_One was aimed at the newbbies
<sweetlaura> I thought you did - but have been told you don't have too - but I will probably want to :) (maybe)
<trufriend> i did when i attended my first one KO, i stopped feeling that way about halfway through the evening
* cyberbrat_ ducks and lets KO's question hit a newbie
* ddesire giggles
<shimmer``> i've never felt i "had" to play
<sweetlaura> I would hope that questions could be answered hopefully by another sub
* Kilted_One hugs brattakins and holds her head down so it goes on by
<vixen{KO}> nor should you ever, shimmer...
<shimmer``> i think i'm still a relative newbie :) at least i still feel like one
* jalyn never felt intimidated to do anything she didn't want to
<vixen{KO}> play is always a consentual thing....and not a pressured act.
<shimmer``> it took convincing to have me play in public- but i wouldn't have if i didn't really want to
<vixen{KO}> and public play is not for everyone either....W/we must all remember that too....
<BernieRoehl> As long as it's convincing you through encouragement, rather than any kind of pressure, then there's no problem.
<Kilted_One> would you expect to see blood at a pp?
* ddesire smiles and second play party..I just wanted to get up there,.play and get it over with..but it was wonderful and I didnt want it to end
<victoria_angel> KO, i hope not.....
<trufriend> i wouldn't KO...that's a little too intimate
* BernieRoehl agrees with vixen, that not everyone is into public play
<shimmer``> it depends on the pp, KO Sir
<karend> to bernie...but one person's 'encouragement' is another person's 'pressure'....difficult to figure out sometimes
<trufriend> if it is a private play party, possibly.....but not at a public PP
<BernieRoehl> Very true, karend
<jalyn> I don't think I would expect it...but it wouldn't bother me
<shimmer``> i agree, tru :)
<sweetlaura> would not expect to see blood at play party!
<Kilted_One> well there are certain blood scenes that would be done at a party
<trufriend> but then a private play party's purpose is solely for pleasure and not so much for the learning experience methinks
<victoria_angel> as a non pp person, i'd not want that experience during my first pp scene
* Kilted_One doesnt mean that someone would be beaten to a pulp either
<vixen{KO}> which brings up another play party bigga role do you rely on the DM's for?  and does that have any bearing on your view/feeling of said play party?
Session Close: Sun Sep 19 21:29:14 1999
Session Start: Sun Sep 19 21:29:37 1999
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* babysis thinks that you can learn alot of things expected and unexpected at a public play party
<Kilted_One> yes shimmer that is what I was reffering too
<babysis> blood included
* BernieRoehl scolds his ISP and continues logging
* #bdsm-kw is being logged
<Kilted_One> several ppl have bee nto their first pp and been totally taken by knife play
* cyberbrat_ heads off to bed with a lil wave
<babysis> i have found in this lifestyle when i imagine some things i think 'i would never do that'
<shimmer``> that would be me, KO Sir ;)
<autumn_whspr> knife play can be mezmerizing
<sweetlaura> -> is not sure wants to go to play party anymore :)
<babysis> then i have seen it done and asked questions of those who did whatever and learned a great deal about things i knew nothing about
* vixen{KO} smiles warmly at babysis and is glad to find that people are open enough to learn from their own and other's experiences at play parties....another good reason to go to them.
<karend> I've never seen blood play at a public party...or fetnight...
* babysis smiles
<Kilted_One> why is that sweetlaura
<PanheadAL> they are good places to learn sweetlaura
<shimmer``> my first party - a private one .. i saw knife play ... totally sent me :)
* jalyn remembers her first one fondly and can't wait for the next one
<vixen{KO}> yes, sweetlaura....and very few of them have extreme play at them....
<sweetlaura> well i still exploring and not sure would want to see all that might be going on at a play party just yet
<Kirspin> I think everyone should attend at least one PP,before deciding whether they wish to play or not and then decide whether they want to particapate in future, I find them a great education!
<BernieRoehl> Fortunately, there's enough going on at the average party that if you see something that squicks you, you can just look at something else instead
* Kilted_One thinks that it would be better to see a skillful knife scene that a "bad" floggin scene
<babysis> yes very true Bernie
* babysis agrees with KO too
* jalyn nods and agrees with KO
<`abi> in a pinch you can just sit back and admire KO in his kilt :)
<Kilted_One> lol abigaille
* shimmer`` giggles
* vixen{KO} ^5's abi
* BernieRoehl smiles
<babysis> or stick a hand up there abi *L*
<sweetlaura> :)
<Kilted_One> where was that knife??????
* vixen{KO} knows the joy of watching the kilt swing while the flogger's doing the same motion....LOL
<victoria_angel> tru, what about the aspect of security at a pp?
<Kilted_One> how would demos best be put for learning purposes??
<trufriend> and KO proves to us what a Scotsman really wears under His kilt!
* vixen{KO} winks and nods knowingly...
<shimmer``> i'll have to peak next time, tru :)
<shimmer``> peek too LOLOL
<shimmer``> maybe that was Freudian ;)
<babysis> every play party i have been to victoria_angel has had a guest list where only those on the list get into the venue
<vixen{KO}> what do you mean, victoria_angel?  which aspect of security?
* Kilted_One thinks so shimmer
<trufriend> the Dungeon Masters, from my understanding, are 'seasoned' bdsm'ers
<babysis> and the doors are usually locked at a certain time also
* shimmer`` blushes
<babysis> so no 'strangers' for lack of a better word can crash the party
<victoria_angel> wondering beyond the 'guest list' - but for insurance of safety at a party
<babysis> at the parties i have attended there have always been two Dungeon Monitors on duty at all times
<BernieRoehl> There are usually "ground rules" for the party, posted at the door.
<victoria_angel> i hope they are big boys.....
<Kilted_One> what safety issues are you concerned with va?? during a scene??
<`abi> they don't have to be big va...they just have to know what they're seeing
* BernieRoehl smiles
<victoria_angel> either a scene or a person becoming too involved and then carried away
* Kilted_One nods
<BernieRoehl> I've been a DM at quite a number of parties, and I'm not a "big boy" by any means!
<trufriend> those rules have also been posted on the website haven't they?
<shimmer``> but you're Bernie, Bernie!
* Kilted_One knows that Bernie was reffin his hight
* BernieRoehl smiles
<BernieRoehl> Thanks, KO!  :-)
* vixen{KO} DM's too....and hasn't exactly been confused with being any kinda boy....big or not!!! LOL
<karend> are we necessarily talking about kw play parties specifically though?
<karend> the rules would change given the venue, and group hosting it.
<BernieRoehl> Yes.  They're at, along with some other information.
<karend> at LadyA's, for example, I didn't have to wear a g-string :)
<Kilted_One> va the first and most important thing is to stop a scene that in the opinion of the DM has gone too far...this is normally done by approaching the Dom/me and talkin quietly wiv em
<victoria_angel> so, as a 'unknown pp participant' what else could one expect?
<BernieRoehl> No, not just kw parties
<vixen{KO}> many rules and how the DM's watch and care for a room and the scenes being played out are very similar from group to group.....much of it is all just lifestyle common sense...
<BernieRoehl> Different parties have different rules, depending on the circumstances.
<BernieRoehl> But yes, as vixen says, there's a lot of commonality.
<Angel`Fox> wow
<shimmer``> hey blush and AngelFox :)
<Angel`Fox> full house :o)
<BernieRoehl> I've seen almost identical lists of rules at parties in Montreal, San Francisco, Boston...
<Angel`Fox> Evening all :o)
<shimmer``> are rules always the same, Bernie?
<karend> well, not necessarily....I've been seeing some stuff described on a mailing list that I'm on of stuff that would never happen in Canada at parties..
<`abi> the orientation that ehbc has implemented is somewhat unique...and a good idea methinks
<trufriend> don't forget the common sense rule holds true at any public function
<shimmer``> some US parties i've heard of in large venues that allow sexual play to a greater extent than i think is legal here
<victoria_angel> abi - what orientation?
<karend> breath play, blood, watersports, cutting, fisting...
<BernieRoehl> Someone sent me the list of rules for a party down in the States (Texas, I think).  Very similar to ours, but with the added rule "No guns on the premises".
<shimmer``> ROFL
<BernieRoehl> It never occurred to me that we needed a "no gun" rule.  :-)
<`abi> a time is arranged before the evening starts for newbies to be introduced to the equipment, the venue, the rules orientation
<karend> at least, would never happen at public parties here...
<PanheadAL> lol that would make sence Bernie seeing you can openly cary them down there
<victoria_angel> ah, thank you, makes sense, and of course, they must be known by the pp participants too....
<BernieRoehl> The orientation has definitely been popular.  DSSG has done it at their parties as well.
<shimmer``> i hope we never do, Bernie Sir :)
* Kilted_One agrees wiv abigaille....worthwhile 30 mins or so
<trufriend> abi, could that 'orientation happen more than once through the evening?  possibly for latecomers or for those who missed the first one
<shimmer``> that would be great, tru
* vixen{KO} thinks that having it once at the beginning helps to get newbies there on time and educate them and helps them get over the gitters...
<shimmer``> maybe even a "try it, you might like it" orientation *grin*
<`abi> it could tru...but I think the idea is to make people a little comfortable before they're hit in the face with all the sights and sounds
<vixen{KO}> it's not a functional thing to have it happen over and over as the night progresses...
<BernieRoehl> We've also experimented with having newbies come an hour earlier, for an orientation session.  Seems to help.
<^^blush^^> that would be a good idea for me i think
* trufriend nods @ abi
<^^blush^^> i know i'd be a basket case!
<^^blush^^> lol
<en{TW}> the orientation was really good
<BernieRoehl> In fact, we took an informal "survey" after our party in April, and the orientation and the demos were among the most popular features of the party.
<en{TW}> as was the demos
<Kilted_One> only for the first second kash
* vixen{KO} aims the pie at abi's know what i mean....
<trufriend> i think attending the event for the first time would be easier to enter into if going with someone who has already been to at least one PP
<babysis> i would agree with that trufriend
<victoria_angel> tru, like an escort?
<^^blush^^> its not kashina by the way
<babysis> but i managed ok when i went by myself
* `abi smiles and ducks
<vixen{KO}> play party escort service.....a new niche to fill perchance???   LOL
<en{TW}> lol vixen
<babysis> i actually think that would be a good idea vixen{KO}
<en{TW}> we brought a new person to the last EhBC party...definately would have been bad for her alone
<victoria_angel> lol
<Kilted_One> like most things in life they are normally easier if done with company certainly company that has experience
<trufriend> i'm sure most of us could manage on our own babysis, but it would be nicer to have an escort (as victoria_angel suggests)
* babysis nods
<shimmer``> i prefer to go with those who know where they're going and who will be there
<^^blush^^> where are they usually held?
<don700> going to my first munch was a bundle of nerves, would be the same for a party 
<en{TW}> we rent a club in Toronto for ours
<babysis> i also like the idea that each party i've been to has had a munch less than a week before it
<BernieRoehl> Some people meet before the party for dinner, and then arrive as a group.  We do the same thing for fetish nights, like the Limelight.
<trufriend> to hold our hand so-to-speak, if needed
<en{TW}> like an old danceclub that's not in use
<babysis> so that way there is always a familiar face to be found at the party
<victoria_angel> i think that a member who'd volunteer to escort a newcomer at a pp might help
<shimmer``> when is the next one, Bernie Sir?
-Kilted_One- [\\'ALLOP:#bdsm-KW] does anyone know who blush is? if it is not kashina
<^^blush^^> i agree victoria
<BernieRoehl> We've used the upper floor of a local community hall, and arnora book a local dance club on a Tuesday night for the one a couple of months ago.
-babysis-  {{{ babysis's Op Notice }}}  it's kashina's friend who's been in here before
*`abi:@#BDSM-kw* ...yes, I think it's blush :)
<BernieRoehl> We don't have an official date set yet, shimmer, but I'll be speaking with arnora in the next couple of days.
<en{TW}> neither do we
* BernieRoehl wonders if TheWolfe and en have set a date for the next DSSG party...?
<shimmer``> cool :) i really enjoyed LadyA's
<en{TW}> nope :)
<BernieRoehl> Scheduling parties in the Fall is not an easy task.  Been there, done that.
<shimmer``> hehehe, i even bought a little schoolgirl desk at a garage sale this weekend ;)
<vixen{KO}> scheduling parties is never an easy task...
<vixen{KO}> they are a lot of work...
* BernieRoehl thinks there are now enough "schoolgirls" to set up a very nice classroom scene at some future party :-)
<vixen{KO}> they don't just happen....
* shimmer`` laughs ... kinda nervously ;)
* vixen{KO} makes note of the classroom idea....good one.
* Kilted_One wants to play head Master lol
<BernieRoehl> They definitely are a lot of work.  The EhBC ones had a ten-person organizing committee, and lots of volunteers.
* vixen{KO} can just imagine all the brats that could keep all the Dom/mes hoppin!!!!
* karend even has an authentic catholic schoolgirl skirt....from a kw highschool :)
* babysis volunteers for the brat position :)
<victoria_angel> ever have pp's which were like masquerades
<shimmer``> me?? brat??? never! *sweet smile*
* BernieRoehl is getting to an age where He can play school principals quite readily
<victoria_angel> you know - with masks....
* karend needs to lose 15 pounds to fit back into it again, but still...
<BernieRoehl> Yes, victoria_angel... I've been to parties like that.  Very different dynamic, very interesting.  Masks are very powerful things.
<PanheadAL> how would the idea of a pp on all holws eve be
<victoria_angel> or theme parties?  no just the odd costume, but a true theme party (ie - pirates....etc)
<vixen{KO}> hmmm.....everyone in masks would be a hard thing given the security needed for this lifestyle, victoria_angel....but concessions could be made upon entering, i suppose....
<Kilted_One> we did one last year AL
<PanheadAL> oh ok KO
<shimmer``> that was my first one, KO Sir :)
<shimmer``> i was hoping
<BernieRoehl> At the parties I've been to, we arrived unmasked, and then put on our masks before entering the playspace.
* vixen{KO} recalls doing the "succubus" routine and smiles at shimmer
<Kilted_One> was a good one too if memory serves....pillory was introd there
<shimmer``> and the big Northbound one is on my bday *wince*
<victoria_angel> vixen, i was more thinking of the eye masks, not full head ones, giggle, assuming that at some point there would be those leather ones at a pp....
* shimmer`` huggles vixen :)))
<trufriend> for those of you that have never attended a PP, is what you are hearing tonight helping you with a visual on what to expect?
* vixen{KO} concurs with victoria_angel....but even just the eye ones need to be identified upon entry....for security.
<victoria_angel> agrees with vixen
<vixen{KO}> play parties are nothing if not a secured event...or else we've thrown out the safe, sane part of our credo....
<PanheadAL> having worked the door i agree with you vixen{KO}
<trufriend> security of a PP could be a topic all its own
<trufriend> back to expectations.....
<trufriend> for those of you that have never attended a PP, is what you are hearing tonight helping you with a visual on what to expect?
<Kilted_One> what about equipment expectations (and I was not reffin anatomy)
<victoria_angel> hey, KO, my Sir asked if a kilt was manditory
<sweetlaura> seems that there is more going on at play parties than I expected :)
* BernieRoehl remembers seeing submissives' eyes go wide when they first see some of the equipment at a party
<shimmer``> hehehe, Bernie Sir .. indeed
<victoria_angel> ah, further to tru's comment, in a way yes.. but when it comes to equipment, seeing is one thing, actually touching is quite another
* jalyn drooled
<Kilted_One> for every school gurl you betcha
<PanheadAL> there is a lot going on sweetlaura 
* vixen{KO} likes getting all kinds of new ideas at play parties....from a gurl likes and doesn't like....
<trufriend> and what about 'proper dress'?  is there a proper dress, comfort to be considered, Dom/me's requirement of their sub(s)...etc.
<lexical> oh blissful one
<victoria_angel> speaking of dress code, is there one?
<shimmer``> i think it really should be open to taste, tru
<en{TW}> it depends on the party
<BernieRoehl> It varies from party to party, victoria_angel
* vixen{KO} concurs with shimmer``
* Kilted_One has never considered wearing a kilt mandatory....or even removing it for playing lol
* shimmer`` laughs
<BernieRoehl> Generally speaking, no -- no dress code.  However, some parties have a "no genital nudity rule", while others don't.
<victoria_angel> the benefits of a skirt, KO
<trufriend> what about the possibility of a 'theme' PP?   could it work?
<victoria_angel> easy access
<shimmer``> a theme could work :)
* vixen{KO} reminds her kilted Master that His kilt if very MANdatory....LOL
<BernieRoehl> It might, trufriend, depending on the theme.
<en{TW}> i doubt it tru...most people laughed at the idea when the Siren fet night started the theme nights
* Kilted_One has thanked his sporran many a time
<vixen{KO}> themes are very workable...and can be a nice change of pace.
<trufriend> why is that en?
<shimmer``> is that what youre calling it, KO Sir?
<BernieRoehl> "School Days" would be one possible theme, for example.
<`abi> dunno Bernie...I think that could potentially limit the appeal
<en{TW}> not sure tru...i think perhaps because theire themes weren't exactly bdsm "themes" specifically
<en{TW}> i agree abi
<en{TW}> perhaps for a small scale party
<Kilted_One> there would a difference if the theme was suggested and not mandatory though
<en{TW}> true KO
<BernieRoehl> It might, abi.
<victoria_angel> a theme could also be based on a colour though
<PanheadAL> a theme would work for a privet palyparty
* vixen{KO} likes the color idea....hmmm....
* en{TW} thinks the theme already is "bdsm"
* vixen{KO} ^5's en{TW}
* trufriend agrees on the colour idea
<^^blush^^> lol
<en{TW}> i have always wanted to throw a Roman style party :)
<`abi> ain't nobody gonna make me wear beige!
<victoria_angel> me too - think orange and black for Halloween, red for Valentines, pastels for Easter, .... green to celebrate the Irish....
-babysis-  {{{ babysis's Op Notice }}}  it's after 10 :) just thought the discussion may wanna wrap up
<victoria_angel> toga works...
<trufriend> is there something that can take place at PP to help ease newcomers into the 'play'?
<en{TW}> but how many have green fet wear? and ppl aren't going to want to wear their fave green sweater and
<victoria_angel> ah, but green 'anything' with fet works....
<victoria_angel> feathers.....
<trufriend> more thoughts to we wind down for the evening....time is now 10:02 ladies and gentlemen
<BernieRoehl> People have mentioned the orientation, which seems to help.  I've also been to parties where "buddies" have been assigned to newbies to hang out with them until they feel comfortable.
<BernieRoehl> Thanks to tru for moderating tonight!
<MasterZarith> night all
[shimmer`` SOUND]
<Kilted_One> !shimmer`` applause.wav
<trufriend> please feel free to continue talking about this, but i would like to thank everybody for coming tonight and for all the wonderful input
* trufriend curtsies to the room
<babysis> thanks for moderating trufriend :)
<BernieRoehl> Mind if I msg you, KO?
<jalyn> thanks tru....
<victoria_angel> good night A/all, thanks tru!  
<shimmer``> well done, tru :)))
<trufriend> thanks for bearing with me!  LOL
<Kilted_One> ty tru...wonderful job....ya know when it was good when ya look at the clock and say "where did that hour go?"
<tvsubbie4you> well, now that the official discussion is over..hi everyone :)))
<Kilted_One> np Bernie
* vixen{KO} remembers hauling around a wee sis being chained to her....and teaching her lots of bad things....LOL
* babysis jingles just cause
* babysis giggles
<BernieRoehl> Thanks
<trufriend> yeh really KO!!  time sure flies by!
<victoria_angel> hiya, tv - long time!
<babysis> that was the best time i ever had at a play party vixen{KO} :)
<babysis> would looooooooove to do it again :)
<tvsubbie4you> vixen....teaching bad things?????!? ;)
* babysis likes being chained to ya ;)
<tvsubbie4you> you betcha vixen{KO}
<tvsubbie4you> oops... victoria_angel
<vixen{KO}> not me tv.....NEVER!!!
<trufriend> not vixen!!
* trufriend giggles
<tvsubbie4you> btw...vixen makes the best little flowers :))))
<babysis> vixen{KO} teaches me how not to get caught *L*
<victoria_angel> well, good night again, see ya soon
<shimmer``> gnight victoria
<ddesire> goodnight victoria_angel
<^^blush^^> night A/all.. giving the controls back to kash!
* babysis puts on mambo and starts to dance around and jingle
<^^blush^^> lol
<edri{AF}> wow a full house